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Zanna van der Aa Season 1 Episode 64

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This is part of our Leadership Behavior Series, where we're diving deeper into some of the 21 behaviors from my new book on human-centric CX transformation: Once You See It.

In this episode, Miranda and I talk about something that fuels every transformation from the inside out: bringing the energy. And I don't just mean being loud or high-octane about it. I mean knowing your energy — what drives you, what your authentic leadership DNA looks like — and then channeling that into mobilizing an entire organization to go on the journey with you.

Because here's the thing: too many employees walk into work and put on their "corporate hat." The energy dies. The transformation stalls. And the leader wonders why nothing is sticking.

Some things we cover:

  • Why "bring the energy" is one of the last — and most important — behaviors in the book
  • The two sides of energy: your personal purpose AND mobilizing the organization
  • Why authentic energy matters more than high-energy performance
  • Balancing the hard (data, numbers) and soft (behaviors, culture) sides of transformation
  • Beyond NPS: how to actually measure energy and behavior change
  • Why the old "3-year roadmap" approach kills transformation momentum
  • Adaptive transformation: learning and improving as you go
  • Lagging vs. leading indicators — and why most leaders are stuck in the middle
  • How to track transformation using employee stories + AI
  • Three practical steps to start tomorrow

What I love most about this conversation is how it connects energy to purpose. The leaders who are genuinely fueled by why the transformation matters — not just what needs to change — are the ones who create real momentum. Not through a campaign. Through conviction.

Whether you're leading a company-wide transformation or trying to shift the culture in your own team, I hope this gives you permission to start with yourself first — and bring your version of the energy.

NEW! Once You See It — Executive Guide to Human-Centric CX Transformation by Dr. Zanna van der Aa is out now! A unique combination of the CEO perspective and the CX transformation lead perspective — plus a dedicated chapter on the role of AI in experience.

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NEW! Once You See It - Executive Guide to Human-Centric CX Transformation by Dr. Zanna van der Aa is out now!
It contains a unique combination of perspectives: the CEO perspective and the CX transformation lead perspective.
And in between these two parts of the book, she also shares a chapter on the role of AI in experience.

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More info? 
LinkedIn -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/zannavdun/
YouTube -> https://www.youtube.com/@dr.zannavanderaa
Website -> https://zannavanderaa.com/
Dutch version podcast -> https://beleving.buzzsprout.com